last updated 12 January 2021
Welcome to the “world” of cards, and of card collecting. If you have found yourself visiting this website a few times lately, and are beginning to think you might like to start collecting cards, let’s start with a few words of friendly advice that we hope will help you avoid some of the biggest mistakes we made when we first started to collect……
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Do I just start buying? We would say no. It is impossible to buy every card ever issued as there are quite literally millions of them, they were issued with tobacco and with various products, all over the world, since the 19th century. We advise that you use your “starting out time” to just look at cards.
Where can I look at cards? Online auctions like eBay might not be recommended for beginners, but they have huge sections devoted to cigarette and trade cards, most of which have a picture of the front and back of the card to look at. It costs nothing but time to look at these, you don’t need to sign up, or pay anything simply to browse
But what if I buy by mistake? This does not happen as much as you might think. It’s a bit like the old story of scratching your nose at a live auction and ending up with a huge bill on an item you didn’t like. The best advice we were ever given is to not sign in to an internet site if you are only browsing or researching. By doing this one simple thing, even if you do press bid, you will only get a prompt to sign in; your bid will not be accepted.
What should I collect? Please don’t ask us, because the best advice is to collect what appeals to you, not just what you feel will be worth money in the future, or what someone else tells you to buy, as if you have no interest in the subject you will quickly tire of collecting it. If you already collect items to do with say, cricket, or cats, then you will know what cards to start looking for. If not, just look down the pages; you will soon find out you are bypassing many cards, and stopping to look closer at others, and that is the first step into finding your specialist theme
What are thematic collections? In this branch of collecting you simply stick to a theme. Let`s say cricket. You will probably start by looking at complete sets on the subject, but then you might find a general sporting set contains some tennis players, and a boxer, and a couple of cricketers, so instead of buying a whole set ask a dealer or fellow collector if they are splitting a set into “odds” or “types”.
What are “odds” or “types”? A single card from a set is called an “odd” or a “type”, and if you collect them you are technically a “type collector”. Some people only collect “types”, and, given money, endless storage space, and time, it is possible to buy one card from every set ever issued. But it is a lengthy job and few come close. One who did come close was one of our former Presidents, Edward Wharton Tigar Read about him HERE.
How do I find out about these “odds” and cards in general? The best way is to look at as many cards as you can. We recommend before you buy any cards you should acquire a copy of a card price guide (e.g. Murray’s). At this point you don’t need a specialist reference book, you need a catalogue style guide which will show you a wide range of subjects, and issuers, and crucially every card is priced – as a collector there are few things worse than bidding on something and finding out later you’ve paid far too much! Even an out of date catalogue will show you which cards were more expensive than others, plus important information like – how many cards make up each set – if there were first and second series, or other printings, so you don`t buy a “set” which is a marriage – that is a mixture of two sets or more – whether some sets are only priced as odd cards (these sets are very scarce, so must be worked towards a card or two at a time) or only priced as complete sets (these sets were issued complete, so it will be hard for you to make them up if you only get hold of a single card or a part set). Also all these cards are a showcase for the business it makes sense that they are the best as far as condition is concerned.
Is condition important? Most collectors, whatever they collect, will tell you that condition is the single most important thing to bear in mind when buying a collectable item. This is especially the case in easily damaged items like cards and other ephemera, and damage has a huge impact on both desirability and price. One thing we will say is that sellers who do not specialise in cards are less likely to realise how important condition is, so when you are starting out always look to buy from a specialist dealer rather than someone who sells many things but happens to include a few cards. Its also always best to see the cards in person at somewhere like a local collectors centre or market. Our official grading guide appears at the end of these questions. We would not advise buying poor condition cards, as they will always stand out in your album and you will end up looking for a replacement. The only reason to buy a poor quality card is if a collector knows that a particular card is so scarce they may not see another in their lifetime. I own three very grubby torn cards that would have been bypassed had they not been issued by a branch of my own family.
How do I store my cards? This is an important decision, which should be considered before you buy your first card. Bear in mind that if you are going to build up a collection you will want to look at your cards from time to time without the risk of damaging them in any way. There are several options available to collectors
old style cardboard albums either slip-in or corner slot. These are not ideal because the area of the card held in place by the album does dent over time, or become discoloured. If you read postcard descriptions online you will have come across the phrase “with corner-slot marks”
loose in vintage cigarette packets. This was another old style solution, and it does have an olde worlde charm. However once you start to amass a few boxes you start running out of storage. Also to view the cards you have to physically handle them and if you do this a lot you run the risk of chipping the edges or creasing the end cards. That is why the end cards of vintage sets cost more!
stick-in albums issued by the company itself. Most of us will remember being at school and sticking the cards on their blank places; this way of storing cards has been going on from the start, but was especially common in the 1920s and 30s. Indeed many cards of that time were issued with gum already on the backs and these are known as “sticky backs”. And the stick in album still persists with modern film and sports related issues though. Collectors prefer the album to be unused and the cards still loose. However if you find them pleasing, do not disregard them, just do not pay too much. They are the one thing most likely to be overpriced at non specialist fairs and markets. The true value is but a couple of pounds an album and some collectors still would not give them house room. Saying that, I had one of Players “Modern Naval Craft” where the wreath between the cards had been pencilled in with a sad face if all the craft on that page had been sunk.
modern ring binder style albums with removable pages of clear plastic. These were not popular when first brought out as they were found to remove the colour from the card. However if you buy them new from a reputable dealer they will not do that as these days the pages are made from archival safe plastic. This method allows you to leaf through an album and enjoy both sides of the cards in your collection. It also allows you to buy different sized leaves for non-standard sized cards and be able to store them together within the same plastic album. Of course you must still be very careful inserting and removing cards from sleeves to avoid chipping the edges or bottom corners but once in sleeves your cards will be stored safely and enjoyed for years to come.
‘Penny’ Sleeves and Toploaders – The ‘penny’ or Mylar sleeve are more common in America but are filtering across because you can have a special card on your desk standing up as if in a frame! They allow you to store your card with much less risk of you damaging the edges or corners as they are made from a very supple and fine material. You may then insert this into a plastic semi -rigid toploader for added protection. This method is more common with the modern larger sized cards such as Pokemon and Match Attax but if you amass several thousand cards they are not as easy to look through or to find a certain card quickly
Where and how can I buy cards? You may think us boastful to say our own Auctions, but why not. The Society holds six auctions a year made up of members` surplus material, most of which is new to the market and expertly graded by our own auctioneer. Our catalogues are published free of charge on this website, and after a small interval the prices that they sold for are added to it. We used to also hold auctions at our local branches around the UK, as part of the regular get togethers. These days most meetings have not yet found a way to operate and still comply with social distancing measures, but some have. The branch meetings were also a place to meet other collectors, as there is no substitute when learning about cards to flicking though dealers’ albums and talking face to face with other collectors.
Specialist Card Auctions – e.g. SAS, Loddons, Tim Davidson’s, Roy Davis – The benefit of these auctions is that they sell many cards in a year so are equally as familiar with grading, that gives you the confidence that what you’re bidding on is as described. Don’t forget though that on top of the hammer price you’ll have to pay a buyer’s premium (15% to 30% of the hammer price) VAT, and postage and packaging! We list these in the newsfeed boxes on our home page as the date of the sale approaches.
General auctions – these often have tins or boxes of cards in varying condition. They are worth looking through, but don’t be tempted to pay more than a few pounds for curiosity value as it is not likely they will contain any rarities. However it is worthwhile having a chat and introducing yourself to a friendly porter as they might know a card collector in the area who is selling up, or one who stalls out at local markets (they may even do so themselves).
Dealers/Fairs – like our branches these have been badly affected by coronavirus. But one day they must resume. We list these in the newsfeed boxes on our home page too.
What about the internet? Many experienced collectors look online every day to see what is being listed but as a beginner it can be a risky business. We would recommend the methods listed above as they aren’t as risky but as you become more experienced the internet can often yield some great cards at great prices. Some quick tips for internet bidding if this is something you want to look into:
Check the feedback rating. 100% positive means they have had no problems, but also check how many sales they have had (that is the number by the star beside their name).
See what else they are currently selling or have sold before (completed listings on the side menu). If there are a lot of cards listed, then they are more likely to know about cards than if they have sold mostly household goods and this is the only card on sale
Check both sides on the picture. The back is just as important as the front of the card (in some cases more important!) – if they haven’t scanned a picture of the back, just contact the seller and ask for one. Also if a card looks grubby and they have listed it as excellent condition don’t just take their word for it, ask for a better picture. I always ask a simple question if the seller is not known to me; this is a good test, because if a seller does not reply to a question, they may not reply if there are any problems after the sale. Some sellers add pictures further down the listing so always scroll to the very end. You can also in some cases enlarge the main picture, look out for “mouse to enlarge”.
Really look at the edges and corners of the card and go with your instincts – if they don’t look quite square to you, 9 times out of 10 when it does arrive it’ll have been trimmed with scissors. There are few things that’ll devalue a card more, so when parting with large sums of money this is worth checking.
Do you have any more hints and tips you would like to tell other collectors? If so contact us as above…
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THE CARTOPHILIC SOCIETY OF GREAT BRITAIN LTD`s
CARD GRADING GUIDE
MINT The cards must give the appearance of never having been handled, i.e. be in the condition in which they would have come from the printers. Imperfections in the printing process would not affect this ( e.g. cards cut slightly off-centre, differences in intensity of ink, marks caused by defective printing plates ).
EXCELLENT Cards have been handled but only to a minimum extent and with extreme care, allowing no blemishes.
VERY GOOD Cards completely clean back and front, with no damage. In particular corners would be untouched, but edges might show slight signs of wear.
GOOD Minor blemishes might be visible, due to handling or age, and there could be slight damage to corners. No creases or stains visible.
FAIR Showing signs of considerable handling and consequential corner or edge damage, or a card from one of the above categories with one defect, such as a crack, foxing, dirty mark.
POOR A card that is soiled, damaged or badly worn, or with a serious defect, such as back missing or badly cut down in size.
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